[users] Mail from list detected as Spam

[Dag Wieers]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Oliver Schulze L. wrote:

> Dag Wieers wrote:
> > This is not a dial-up. In fact, it is a fixed IP and corporate conection.
> > ADSL does not mean it is a dialup or a dynamic IP. 
>
> I understand, I expressed myself wrong. I understand that ADSL is a tecnology
> used by dial-up/broadband and corporate users.
> 
> If you ADSL with a fixed/static public IP (213.193.131.241), then you just
> need to contact your ISP and ask for the correct PTR or reverse lookup
> configuration.
> 
> It just look like this:
> lists.rpmforge.net. -> 213.193.131.241
> 213.193.131.241 -> lists.rpmforge.net.
> 
> Having a reverse lookup configured right is required by RFC not just me,
> so maybe others will have problems too (hotmail, gmail, yahoo)

Show me the RFC. A mail coming from lists.rpmforge.net does not have to 
originate from lists.rpmforge.net. The mail I just send you from 
dag at wieers.com does not originate from wieers.com (in the strict sense).

You base your logic that a reverse name lookup with 'adsl' in the name is 
SPAM. I am telling you that this generalisation of the definition SPAM is 
wrong. The example is this list.

Besides, I cannot change it because it is not my server and not my network 
and not my subscription :) But changing it in order to match your 
definition of SPAM seems to be the wrong thing to do.

There may be more valid reasons though. And there certainly is a case for 
changing it because of the beauty of it all. But your definition of SPAM 
(based on only this) is wrong.

There is nothing wrong with having the generic reverse name. Or anything 
else (including something with adsl in it). It does not have to be 
lists.rpmforge.net.

Kind regards,
--   dag wieers,  dag at wieers.com,  http://dag.wieers.com/   --
[all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power]